discomfort

Well said, Labi.

one of my favorite things is riding the spinning bike and feeling the seat rub against my pussy.  at first i saw it as discomfort, but now i can *almost* have an orgasm just from the rubbing i get when in spinning class.  i bet no one else there knows how erotic i think the biking session can be...

gemma, there's got to be an alternative.

PLEASE DO NOT DO IT!!! There are other ways to avoid that discomfort like wearing cotton panties because they do not rub against anything. I find that thongs make it harder to move around in comfortably and boy shorts (booty shorts) are much more comfortable. I would suggest trying something like this before you consider that horrific procedure. And please check the background on the procedure. Because some women experience pain during sex and some women just lose the sensation. I am 100% against  labiaplasty. I horseback ride, swim, run, exercise and my labia is bigger than most of the ones on this site, I have never had any problems unless I am in thongs.

gemma,
if you're looking for help getting labaiplasty, I'm afraid you've come to tne wrong place, you won't find anyone here who will help you destroy what sounds like a very beautiful pussy.
What you will find are people with advice aimed at easing your discomfort. Shawna's advice about wearing something that is not as toight against your mound is very good advice, and I for one find boy shorts to be much sexier than thongs, I Don't know why.

you may also want to try out garments made of materials that don't pull or chafe as much, or even going commando, my personal favorite.

And Shawna, you just get hotter each time Ihear from you.

XOXO t_d

Just think about guys that bike with their balls rubbing against the seat they got to have it worse. I'm 22 and have been contemplating getting surgery for the past few years and I keep on changing my mind when I come back to this site. You should take a look at adult film star Katie Morgan she is quite lippy. Made me feel alot better to see a famous porn star with them.  I find discomfort in tight jeans more than anything and I wear skin tight jeans all the time but it's not too hard for me to ignore the slight discomfort.  

As for health services that cover labiaplasty they are non existent.  I live in Canada and talked to my doctor and you should have seen her reaction she said "you think that is abnormal."  But they would do it for free in Canada if they are extremely thick and long.  Prices range from $3000-$7000 and there are two surgery methods trimming and the wedge method which doesnt leave scars.

I want to have mine cut, too.
I also don''t think that they,re ugly or anything.
But they just bother me, they're kinda annoying.
And they won't give me any godd feel during sex.
I don't even like oral sex on me.
Sooo I think, Imma cut em.

Liese,

just from observation I'm going to guess that you're on the younger side, and therefore it would be natural to assume that you've only been with younger guys. that said, let me get to my points.

Wait a few years until you have a fully matured image of your body before taking a step like this which id permanent, and in most cases regrettable. you're thinking about doing this because they are annoying, at the risk of sounding crass, that sounds kind of dumb.

Since, I'm assuming, you've been only with younger guys, none of them are even likely to really know what to do with a pussy, so it only goes to reason that you've never had yours properly eaten. Find a man who truly appreciates a woman, and who truly loves the pussy and really knows his way around one, You'll both be delighted that you have the labia that you have. Remember, despite what is said here, eating pussy is not a natural act. It takes years, and lots of practice to be able to do it right.

XOXO  t_d

I will wait 'til I am 18 anyways.  
'til then maybe someguy can eat my pussy,
so I change my mind ;)

You know, the annoying thing is really like a big problem.
Cause they hurt when I ride a bike. They sometimes rub during sex so that the skin gets rubbed off.
Tucking them in is the most uncomfortable thing ever.
They just.....kinda suck.

Tempest. . .

Ditto man!

I agree with everything you've said, especially the part about eating pussy taking practice.

The friend who came to visit me in the thread I mention on this site told me she really enjoyed the way I ate her pussy (she's probably reading this. . .so *wink* to her -- see you in June/July baby!). . .so I guess you can call me a bit of a pussy-o-logist if there is such a thing!

My work?  The study of pussy.

I can tell you based on my years of experience (okay, maybe only the last 16 years then -- lost my virginity at 15, and am 31 this July) that you ladies have nothing to be concerned about -- there is no such thing as an "imperfect" pussy.

They do vary in size, shape, tightness, etc. . .but in look -- they are all mostly the same in the eyes of the human male.  Okay, maybe we'll limit that to the males that know what to do with a pussy in the first place. =0)

- Eric

Liese,
First of all how do you know your labia don't give you any sensation when you have never had sex without them??
I have heard from women who lost sensation after the surgery. you're going to realize what you lost when it is too late!
I am sure you think they are annoying because you are self-conscious about it and think it is something extra. I have huge labia and don't feel discomfort with them but if I sit down and really think about it, I will feel them against my pants and if I hadn't learned to love them I'll get annoyed about it. The problem is in your head!
From what you said is obvious that you haven't learned to enjoy sex or haven't had a sex partner who could make you feel good, because not liking oral sex doesn't have anything to do with the size of your labia. you wouldn't have liked oral sex if you had smaller labia neither. would you?
feeling your genital parts getting rubbed during sex is a good thing and is the point of sex unless you are not aroused and lubricated. If you are not into the sex and not well lubricated you will feel inside of your vagina getting rubbed off too!
you're not even 18 yet. You have a lot of growing up to do!

liese,
As far as your problem with riding a bike goes. This can be solved through an adjustment to your seat, or even by getting a different seat. did you know that there are seats available that are two pads that your ass cheeks rest on? They look strange, but they have nothing in the center to chafe your labia. they're more comfortable for guys too.  
And as far as you getting rubbed raw during sex. this is most likely a lubrication issue. And this brings ys back to the boys you're banging. Don't just give it up to the boys, make them work for it. If they can't be bothered  to prime you properly first they don't deserve the pussy. And if that doesn't work for you, there are several commercially available lubricants that will turn that painful rubbing into something enjoyable.

just something to think about.

XOXO t_d

hey, tempest.

It's not like, they don't want to make me enjoy sex.
It's just, i don't get the feeling, not even with masturbation.
I guess, maybe I'm still very young and I don't know what I like.
Maybe it just takes time. I'm only 16 yet.

But at this point, I feel like.
My pussylips don't give me anything.
They don't bother me majorly, but sometimes they do.
They make me feel uncomfortable.
So I thought, that I would let them be cut off.
Cause it's not the money.
Until now, I still want them to be cut off.
Maybe My mind is will be changed in 2 years :)


but thank you, everybody

Liese: You are expecting too much of yourself, you are only 16. It takes time to  learn about your body and it takes more time to learn how your mental outlook can effect your ability to have an orgasm. Mutilating yourself will not make you have an orgasm, it could mean you will never have an orgasm. I dated a beautiful girl who had her clit cut off when she was 6 years old because her parents were strict Muslims. It was 20 years before she learned that a vibrator placed where her clit use to be would give her an orgasm. She has never had an orgasm by finger masturbation or by making love and never will. Look at all of the pleasure she has missed. Take time learn your own body and mind and you will find what you are looking for.

It seems fairly irresponsible to be making those kind of decisions while being so young. This is the exact reason that most tattoo and piercing places will not pierce or tattoo someone underage. Because your decisions are not always rational and can be careless. What you want now may not be what you want in a few years. My best advice is to wait until you are at LEAST twenty. I speak from experience because I lost my virginity at seventeen and at that point I too wanted surgery. I am so thankful now that I waited. I processed everything all the pro's and con's all the hazards and I let it all sit for a couple years like people should do with decisions such as tattoos because it is your body and there is no going back. I think the sex problem may not be your pussy at all, I think it is probably just you and the boys you are sleeping with. Sixteen year old boys are not the most experienced. I didn't fully enjoy sex when I was that age but as it turns out it was the person I was doing, along with my insecurities getting in the way of my pleasure. I can not masterbate either. I can't stimulate myself. But as soon as my boyfriends hand goes even inches towards it I get stimulated. So do not give up just yet hun, I am only twenty (just turned twenty two weeks ago) and I speak from experience. Someday you will learn to love it. Because how can you expect others to love you if you can not learn to love yourself?

Shawna!

I'm so proud of you! =0)

- Eric

Where I come from (Germany) you can get labiaplasty with any age, I guess. As long as you physically and mentally feel discomfort and your parents give the permit, you can get labiaplasty.

Jack:
Clit is like sooooo different from labia.  
Cause Labia doesn't have many nerves as far as I know.
They do not stimulate me at all, I don't even feel it, when someone gently touches them.
I only feel them, when they hurt.

Liese,
"Labia doesn't have many nerves as far as I know". As far as you know? Are you a doctor? I bet a 16 year old knows a lot...
Apparently you don't listen to anybody and don't even bother to read what everyone so passionately is trying to teach you.
Oh well...We'll keep our precious pussies, you go ahead do what you wanna do, you lil brat...
Just don't come back here and cry how much you regret it...

Liese: I fully understand the difference between the clit and labia. I think you need to be more patient with yourself. Spend time learning about yourself. Learn what it takes for you to mentally get aroused as well as physically aroused, when you put the two together you will have wonderful orgasms. If you get wet enough you will be able to move your lips out of the way when penetration begins they will take care of themselves once love making gets more active. If you are exercising try using baby oil on them first. When you find a guy who wants to eat your pussy you will get a completely different sensation. It will also change your mind about how they feel. Imagine what we guys go through learning to walk, exercise, etc. with our equipment which is much larger (in most cases :-) than your labia. You can learn to do what you want, make love, etc with what you have. If the surgery goes wrong imagine living a life with pain like a constant tooth ache between your legs. It would hurt when you are sitting, standing ie all the time. Not a good thing.

Don't make any radical surgical decisions until you are 21 or older and have had sexy many times. Then you can decide what is right for you based on more experience.

Thanks Jack.

Jessica,

Ouch!  Somebody's a little fiesty! =0)

Remember, she's only 16 -- we need to embrace how she feels and help her to understand.

Calling her a "brat" probably won't help the cause -- know what I mean?? =0)

Just my 3 cents. . .

Yes Eric. I know I was frustrated. I just sometimes think why do we bother to spend our precious time giving advice when some of these girls come back nagging and saying the same thing.
I just thought she might be one of those girls that when you give them attention they continue to complain to get more attention. (I used to be that way myself).
Anyway I am not that patient...

Liese,

Yes, the labia are much different that the clitoris, no one here will dispute that. Where you are wrong, and I think much more wrong than many of the people here realize, is the importance of the labia when it comes to sexual pleasure. In fact , it is generally a bad idea to overlook anything between a woman's tail bone and her navel when it comes to trying to give a woman oral pleasure. (Yes, I'll even eat her ass if I think it'll get her off.) Anyone who has any skill at eating pussy will tell you that when going down on a woman, you don't just want to attack the clit, you want to eat the whole pussy and just come back to visit the clit occasionally, and even then, direct stimulation is usually a bad idea, especially right after the woman has cum. And I think that many of the women here will tell you that if her "licker" forgets this, the experience can be more frustrating, or even painful than fun. I personally like to spend a very long time with the labia, licking, sucking and chewing on them until they get all puffy and very dark in color.  

This is important when reading Jack's post about his ex because FGM, although is usually intended to remove the clitoris, and that is usually all that we hear about, very often involves the complete removal of the labia minora. Jack. I grieve for what your ex has endured, and surely still endures at the hand of her family's twisted sense of piety and propriety.

Liese. I hope that one day you find someone who cares enough about your pleasure to make you appreciate what you have.