Get your info right

Someone

September 28, 2009

Captured? Gagged?  Where is your proof of all this because right now you are using the wrong terms and changing the whole picture.  While I don't agree with FGC you are making this out to be something you find listed with murder when in fact this is the peoples culture.  This isn't a reliable site just your ideas and I hope no one decides what to believe in based on your ideas.  Maybe you should go and read some scholarly journals (Anthropology one) Such as "Female Genital Cutting:Culture and Controversy by Ellen Gruenbaum"  who is someone who actually knows what they are talking about.  You on the other hand do not.

Dear Someone,

First, in case people wonder what you are talking about:
Female Genital Mutilation

Second, in the hope not to ruffle your cultural sensitivities too much, here is a little excerpt from a story by a woman who has experienced it (at the guardianweekly.co.uk):

"[...] they tied my hands and blindfolded my eyes. Then they laid me in the backyard with big banana leaves spread out on the ground. They took off my pants. I was fighting, but the woman sat on my chest. I wanted to die at that moment but I couldn't scream – they put a cloth in my mouth. It felt like I was suffocating. There were no anaesthetics – they just cut me. Three days later they said that they hadn't cut me properly, that my clitoris was "growing back" and they had to scrape it off again. I can't describe the feeling; you only know when it happens to you."

To me that's a brutal assault. If even one convicted killer or rapist in the West would be tortured similarly as part of his punishment, both Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch would be screaming bloody murder all over the world in defence of him. Yet two million girls experience this each year in one degree or another. I do understand that this is a complicated cultural issue, but that does not make the practice any less atrocious. It only makes it that much harder to eradicate.

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shaver77

September 29, 2009

Dreadful, no respect for women.  
Should be banned. Its another way to suppress women and prevent them from full enjoyment of life.

The Marquis

September 29, 2009

Well said, Labi.  It's an absolutely barbaric practice, cultural issue or not.

Eric

September 30, 2009

Wow.

"Someone" says:

"While I don't agree with FGC you are making this out to be something you find listed with murder when in fact this is the peoples culture."

Well, shit. . .you could have fooled me.  You seem to be a staunch supporter of FGC.

Personally, and I don't care if I offend you here, but I don't give a shit if it's someone's culture or not. . .it's a fucking retarded practice period.

It just goes to show that there are still cultures in the world that are still underdeveloped, and primitive in nature.

I don't give a shit how you slice it. . .PAIN is never a good thing when the other person doesn't want it to happen.

If you wanna dialog, then let's dialog. . .but don't come on Labi's site blasting him (and the rest of us who agree with him) about his opinion on it.

And unless Ellen Gruenbaum had her Labia lips sliced off by some fucking nut who kidnapped her and cut her labia lips off against her will. . .I would venture to say that she knows about the same as the rest of us except maybe what she's read and/or possibly witnessed, much like the rest of us.

And what the fuck do you care if this site is a reliable source of information for FGC or not??  This site's purpose is not to inform people about FGC, it's purpose is to inform people (women mostly) that their pussies are something to be proud of, not something to consider deformed because of social stigma predicated by retarded doctors who earn a living from providing the surgeries in question.

Quoted DIRECTLY from UPenn's website (Yes, I Google your Ellen Gruenbaum just for kicks):

www.upenn.edu/pennpress/book/13443.html

Right from that website:

"To the Western eye, there is something jarringly incongruous, even shocking, about the image of a six-year-old girl being held down by loving relatives so that her genitals can be cut. Yet two million girls experience this each year. Most Westerners, upon learning of the practice of female circumcision, have responded with outrage; those committed to improving the status of women have gone beyond outrage to action by creating various programs for "eradicating" the practice. But few understand the real life complexities families face in deciding whether to follow the traditional practices or to take the risk of change."

Are you fucking kidding me??  A 6-year old girl??

That's insane.  Even circumcision is a little over the top (says the uncut guy named Eric), but at least that happens at such an early age you don't even remember it into your manhood.

Tell me that 6 year old girl isn't going to think it's okay for a fucking man to hold her down the same way and do shit to her genitals later on in life (maybe while she's still young too).

"Few understand the real life complexities families face in deciding whether to follow the traditional practices or to take the risk of change."

Are you fucking nuts??  You and Ellen must both be in support of that culture if you ask me. . .that is a brutal fucking act, no matter how you slice it (no pun intended).

Some things are just blatantly obvious. . .

During the Cold War our country and what was the USSR were both building up their Nuclear Weapons stockpile. . .it didn't take a fucking rocket scientist (no pun intended again) to see that was going to turn into a shitstorm, so they changed because EVOLUTION of humankind demanded it.

Having said that, it's kinda obvious THAT culture needs to change and I'm no pussy scientist (pun intended).

So if you have nothing to do but to come here in SUPPORT of obvious bullshit. . .why don't you just keep your opinions to yourself so that you don't confuse the young girls who come to this website looking for guidance, and help with their self-esteem because they think they look different when in reality they do not, but have a warped sense of their own sexual self-worth to a man because of the same retarded shit that goes in that culture you seem to respect so much.

Thanks but no thanks.  You should be banned from the site.

- Eric

tempest_driver

October 2, 2009

don't you love it when "someone" (yeah love that one) can't accept reality even though all the evidence is provided?

Hey SOMEONE!! come out and identify yourself. If you have ANY evidence that Labi's story is wrong I'd love to see it, it would have to be pretty good evidence though to rebuke the mountains of evidence I've seen for about twenty years.

PLEASE PROVE THE STORIES WRONG. I REALLY WISH THEY WERE A HOAX.

Until then, back away from the kool-ade and step into reality.

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