Weights are working for me !!

Hi There
Could I just ask what weights are you using exactly. I'm really keen to use some but don't really know what to get.

Well done Yummtoo.  Well done indeed.  It does take a bit of patience to stretch your labia, but weights work very well indeed.  The key is to wear them as often as possible, of course.  The same is true if you are simply pulling on the labia.   You will need to do it all the time, whenever possible throughout your day.  So there is a definite need to do without underwear, and, as you say, it can be very exciting in skirts and dresses.  You have the joy of knowing what you are doing, while no one else does, unless you choose to show them.  Perfect!!  Have you thought of sending in some photos to the sister site at www.sexylabia.net??

Louise, i have sent u an email. Hope to hear how it goes ??

Ok, this seems odd to me. To each their own, obviously, and whatever other poeple want to do is fine. However I thought this was a site for celebrating what you have naturally?

I think putting weights on your labia to make it longer is similar to surgery to make it shorter... OK it's not as extreme but you're still doing potential damage to the skin and surrounding areas. The tissue in this area is very delicate and can be easily torn.

Louise,
You can use almost any kind of weights.  There are weights specifically for sexual use on some adult store sites, as well as anything from fishing weights to weights for scales.  They can be attached with clips, or through the use of piercings.  If you wish any further information, feel free to write to me.  Really, anything will do, as long as it's not too heavy.

Good for you, Yummtoo!  Keep us updated on your progress!  And let me know what bus you're riding -- perhaps I'm going your way...  ;)

 johnylips i sure will, Lousie an i are in the same country an possibly might get to meet at to some stage, sooner than later wood be good, so i knew my first email was worth a personal address to her at first. Remembering us women are from venus !! stay tuned johny

ECC,

I can see your concern, because on the surface it does seem that way. In fact, I have wrestled with it often myself. On one hand, I am opposed to nearly any labia reduction, on them other hand, I am not opposed to labia elongation. This I'm certain is at least partially due to my own preferrence towards larger labia. But I think the prevailing cause goes quite a bit deeper than that.

The people who visit this site regularly are mostly of two groups.

Women who have become victims of the modern misogynistic viewpoint that women should be thin, flawless, firm breasted, and perfectly smooth. Anything else, including protruding labia is imperfect, and gross, and needs to be fixed.
and people who think women are beautiful regardless of what anyone else tells us we're supposed to look like or think of when we masturbate. And part of that beauty is their labia, most of which present themselves at least a little. Some of these women, such as Yummtoo, have decided, that regardless of what they've been told, their labia are part of what makes them women, and are beautiful. Their labia literally are what makes them feel womanly and beautiful, and the fuller their labia are, the more beautiful they feel.

So you see ECC, these women aren't lengthening been told they aren't attractive if they don't, they're doing it because they've decided all by themselves that it will make them feel prettier. And despite what our reaction to them may be, and how much we love our women better endowed, for much of us, the fact that these women are happier with themselves is the most important thing.

To quote tempest_driver---" ...their labia are part of what makes them women, and are beautiful. Their labia literally are what makes them feel womanly and beautiful, and the fuller their labia are, the more beautiful they feel."

THIS! Yes, yes, yes.  This is exactly how I feel about having large lips, and why I don't really understand and feel saddened when a woman with large lips wants small lips instead.  To me, they are the epitome of femininity.  

No thoughts on weights, though, other than that sounds painful!

Heather, I agree with you and with Tempest Driver whole heartedly.  Their labia does identify the center of a woman's sexuality.  A little enlargement is a good thing.  Since you have large lips, I'm sure you have no interest in making them larger.  You are gifted and blessed.  I do hope that you'll check out the sister site, www.sexylabia.net

I cannot express how it makes me feel that I've been quoted so often lately.

Could this mean that I actually get it?

Hey guys, get over the drama with what god gave you !! Be blessed that your a woman to start with. The womans body is so much more visual than a mans ( at times ) and large lips are a blessing like Heather said, So If u want big, get big !! and if u want small. get small !! cos complaining about it , wont get you anywhere.. So anyway,  Is anyone else having success with weights ??? its a pretty over cast day in old Sydney town today. so much for summer !! ;-)

Tempest_driver--yes, you get it. :)

Marquis--Checked out the site, read a few threads. But unfortunately one of the first threads I read was heartbreaking and gut-wrenching to me on a personal level and it had me in tears immediately. Nothing to do with labia at all, or something negative, or anything site-specific. Just something that's personally painful to me, so I won't be hanging around the site any--have to avoid that again. Damn, crying again now as I type this!

Oh, Heather, I am so sorry to hear of your sadness. May I suggest that you consider re-visiting the .net site for support over whatever has you upset? You are able to private message within the site. I have exchanged messages with several others about my personal struggles. Although having and/or loving large labia brought the group together, I have found that the members consider the entire woman in their replies. You may find you have more in common with someone than you thought.  Whether it is here or elsewhere, I hope you get what you need. Wishing you the best ...

Heather,  
thats terrible to hear...
I hope whatever it is that had you in tears can be resolved. I hate to see a woman cry, its a sad and upsetting thing

WEll... LOL if its an annoying girl that is crying for something rediculuous, and shes a mean person, then its not sad LOL

feel free to email me if you need a confidence booster

The most important thing to me in your letter is that you don't mention which bus in which city you travel on?   I'm sure if you tell us where and when you travel, you'll have a bus load of eager spectators!

Hi jimbo, I live in Sydney. So Circular Quay. central places like that..

What weights are you using?

I am also a little puzzled with this message...
I mean I don't understand what is the point of this site:

Is it to tell women that (1) "no matter what way you are down there, no matter how it looks, it is natural, beautiful and just the way it was meant to be", or (2) "only long labia are pretty, and thus it is great that you mutilate yours with weights" OR (3) "make them the way you would personally feel pretty -> if you want them short, make them short, if you would like them long, use weights to make them long, whatever makes you feel more like a woman".  

First I thought it was number 1, which sounded great. Then I realized it was actually number 2, which sounds weird. (At least according to this discussion it seems like number 2, which only sets women another normative "how to look to look sexy" -rule.) Number 3 it maybe cannot be, due to how aggressive answers one woman here got when she told how happy she was after she had her labia cut shorther due to how uncomfortable and painful they felt before.

Seriously, you got me lost with your logics...

Maryann,
If you read back through this thread you'll see that I've already answered your question.

Ok, I am going to have to try to explain myself better. I ended up on this page after googling labia surgery. I have VERY large labia, so it really hurts and makes my life (wearing underwear and riding a bike etc.) difficult. It never occured to me that there would be ANYONE in this whole world who would but their genitals for LOOKS, before I started to google this stuff. Really, I had NO CLUE. And it started to disgust me. But all the same, this page is doing the exact same: focusing on the looks of people's genitals and rating them ("the larger the better"). That is not cutting out the norms, but creating new ones.

You described two groups of women:
1. Victims of the times and  beauty norms , who mutilate their labia to match the standards.
2. Independent women who are lengthening their labia just because they themselves happen to feel better if their labia is longer.

That is very strange for me as a woman. First of all, I don't match either of those groups. Second of all, there seem to be at least two implications:

1. You are saying there is a normative idea that small labia is better, and it has to be faught against. Before coming to this page I NEVER HAD ANY IDEA WHATSOEVER that there was something wrong with long labia. After coming to the page, I got that idea, and feel really confused. My labia minora is HUGE and hangs outside a lot, more than on the pictures of this site. But I simply had no idea there was something so strange about it that there needs to be an actual webpage put up just to say "it is normal". I don't think we would need a page saying "ladies, it is ok and normal to have blue eyes". So my conclusion is: there is something about large labia minora that doesn't somehow match the beauty standards. I simply did not know this! (I don't watch porn or anything else which would have given me this information about the actual "standard".) So with your message you were basically saying that  yeah, there is this idea in the society that large labia is bad, but don't listen to it . I never did before coming to this page. I had NO IDEA. So in a way you are enstrenghtening that idea with this page.

2.  Women cannot be wanting smaller labia just for their own purposes, independently.  Well, I am. As I said, I have NEVER heard anyone saying anything about large labia being  unnormal  or anything, but I feel very uncomfortable with it being stuck in my underwear, not being able to ride a bike properly etc. Those are my reasons and I know I would LOVE to have them cut smaller. So why is this person who is HANGING WEIGHTS to make her labia LOOK certain way so (that sounds SO totally crazy to me!) more natural than a person who wants to make them different JUST FOR THE WAY THEY MAKE YOU PHYSICALLY FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE? And how on earth would this person with weights not be pushed by some looks-norms? Why to alter your natural, beautiful body otherwise?

3. You also make it sound that people with large labia are somehow more pretty than people with small labia. I think that is really normative and rude. We are born with what ever we have, should that not be good enough, short or large?

4. If the whole  natural is beautiful  would be true on this page, people would not be making weird statements about women who are hairy, don't shave and never have. I have seen people commenting on women's pussies based on the way they look, and getting negative comments if they are hairy. The only idea that gives me is  grow up .

You wrote:  For much of us, the fact that these women are happier with themselves is the most important thing.  It sure doesn't sound that way, when people are RATING other peoples genitals based on their large labia (the larger, the better  argument) or the amount of hair etc. That is just simply puzzling

MaryAnne,
Thank you for elaborating, it gives a lot more strength to your question and gives me a lot more of an idea about your concerns at the heart of your question.
It's also a humbling message to me that I completely neglected your group when I gave my earlier answer. A group of women who have recieved quite a bit of attention in the past. Women who are considering labiaplasty as a remedy for labia pain. And for this I profusely apologize.
I am a bit of an anomaly at this website because I have publicly conceded that there are cases where  labiaplasty is appropriate and should be considered. Those are:
1. If the woman has suffered an injury and needs labiaplasty for reconstructive purposes.
2. If the labia size and shape causes her pain and EVERY OTHER OPTION to ease this discomfort has been exhausted.  

Unfortunately, labiaplasty is being performed today almost exclusively for aesthetics.  Although you've never heard this. The prevailing idea in western culture today is that in order for a vagina to be pleasing to the eye, it must have a neat, tidy appearance. To have labia minora that protrude is unsightly and must mean that you're a huge slut with a loose pussy.
It is exactly this thought process that has made labiaplasty one of the most profitable and fastest growing forms of cosmetic surgery today.
And it is this notion we at this site challenge on a daily basis.
I love women, and their lady parts. Especially if those lady parts happen to be on the prominent side. And I admit that those preferences occasionally affect my judgement. But I try to always give advice based on the best interest of the person seeking the advice.
And the advice I generally give is NEVER have a labia reduction based on how you perceive others view them. This is merely treating the symptom of a greater underlying issue. And you're practically guaranteed not to be happy with the results. And I strongly urge against the surgery for purposes of physical comfort until you fully investigate why you're having this discomfort which I view as an extreme solution that is not guaranteed to solve the problem.
If your labia are giving you pain, I strongly urge you to first try to figure out what's causing the pain and when it started. Often times it can be a question of clothing choices. Have you given thought to undergarments of different materials? Like cotton, silk, or none? Or different fits? looser vs tighter? Or different cuts of panties? Like hipster, bikini, thongs or nothing? Or is your discomfort due to grooming habits? I prefer a vagina that's bald and smooth. It just makes it easier to see everything, and it's easier to perform oral sex on, but one of the purposes of body hair is that it is a natural lubricant against rubbing and chafing. And as much as I love a vagina without hair. I prefer a vagina with happy labia. And if that means you must allow some hair to grow back, I think it's well worth it. a pussy can be just as sexy trimmed as it is bald.
I can also see where you can be confused by my condemnation of labiaplasty, while I encourage the practice of elongation. And I believe the answer here lies in perspective. On one hand I condemn making them smaller, but encourage making them bigger, and yes, that does seem hypocritical. On the other hand, women usually want them gone because they've been made to feel that they're ugly. Or inconvenient. Whereas women who want them bigger usually do so because they see them as beautiful and sexy, and pleasurable, and want more. But to me a real big consideration is the question of genital modification vs mutilation. To me, mutilation is a drastic act, often involving violence or trauma and significant pain over a long healing period with permanent results. And that's a pretty apt definition of labiaplasty in my opinion, which, even under the best of circumstances is a traumatic experience requiring weeks of painful recovery. And in some cultures is performed without the consent of the woman, or more often the girl, who is bound and made to endure the process, often without the benifit of anesthetic, under unsanitary conditions. Whereas modification, while sometimespainful, heals quickly it it is, and is often much less permanent. most of what I've been told on the subject of labia elongation is that it's actually pleasurable, and it leads to more sexual pleasure, and requires years of dedicated effort to produce results with any permanence. piercings can be removed and will heal over, labia will usually shrink back up once stretching efforts are suspended. Even tattoos can be removed. But once you have labiaplasty, it's gone forever. And the results usually aren't that pleasing to the eye.
I hope this shed at least a little light on the subject. If you still have questions, please feel free to ask.

I agree with everything Tempest_driver has said and i am sorry to hear that your labia causes you problems. But just to go back on your other points this *is* a site cebrating the beauty of women. As has previously been mentioned many (the majority these days) of labiaplasty is because of purely cosmetic reasons exploited by an industry that makes money out of people's insecurities. This site is showing how beautiful labia is and to be proud of your body. If someone is using weights to lengthen their labia because they love it so much this is entirely in line with the spirit of the site to love your body and rightly will be supported.